Investigate of quench column

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Investigate of quench column

Postby andrejkucma » 25 February 2016, 21:42

Dear colleaguess!
I try simulate quench column. Here I have problem how to set mass flow of quench stream. This stream is join into hot steam of medium. Then it goes as low temperature steam feed into column. In older version I used flow constraint, but there were mass-ballance errors in some units. I copy one of versions of problem in .rar. Can anybody give me ,please, an advice? Thanks a lot.
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Re: Investigate of quench column

Postby hkooijman » 01 March 2016, 09:30

There are two ways to simulate a quench column: only for the heat transferred, or for both the mass and heat transformed. I recommend you to try to simulate the quench column the first way but then with one or two flashes is series. This will already get you a very good approximation for the heat being transferred, and the water saturation of the reaction mixture. It also allows you to check whether you are applying sufficient water to the quench, as we suspect is not the case in this flowsheet. The consequence of using too little water is that the liquid "dries up" at some position in the column and creates a numerical problem for our column model, as it cannot deal with stages w/o any liquid or vapor flow. Note that you added more than two stages in the quench. The number of stages you can get is very much dependent on the type of internals in the quench and the typical internals installed are sprays or packings. A layer of sprays will only get you 1 equilibrium stage if it is sufficiently high i.e. at least 1-2m. Also packing will only get you maybe 1 stage per 2m of installed bed (as typically large 3-4" packings are applied). If the cooling liquid is pumped around - as it often is - you might find the use of flash unit operations even more appropriate than using a column.

Furthermore, it is always advised to not add in recycle streams straight away but to act as an engineer and guess what you intend the recycle to be. This will not only enable you to only close the recycles at the very last moment but also to fully understand what you are accomplishing. Once you have the flash or two flashes in series working, you can try to replace it with a column operation again.

Note that your EoS model only accounts for the physical solution of HCl in water, which is a poor approximation. However, any more detailed modelling requires you to also use a thermodynamics model that can account for the solubility of HCl in water as well as for the heat of absorption the acid gas has. This probably requires you to use an electrolyte model which currently neither TEA nor ChemSep offers. This will not change in the immediate future.

Harry / ChemSep
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Re: Investigate of quench column

Postby andrejkucma » 16 March 2016, 14:05

Thank you, Mr. Harry.
In proces, water is not in use. Expectional with HCl due to corosion aspect. little amount (2-5ppm water) is real amount in feed but in simulation it doesnt matter. In columns with many trays (40 and more) water is cumulated. Its normal steady state.
If I simulate HCL-VCM-EDC-H20 (one liquid phase system) is quite good to use Peng robinson, K from Dechema (optional), Wilson aktivity koeficient HCL-H20 1,34-1,1. then work its good according to real state.
I found mistake there in MB in information calculator - not out/in streams were included - and that was main reason, why it doesnt converge in flow constraint app.
Thank you, one more time for your look.
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Re: Investigate of quench column

Postby jasper » 16 March 2016, 16:25

Does it work now?
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Re: Investigate of quench column

Postby andrejkucma » 06 May 2016, 18:24

Hi, Jasper.
It works very good.
Thank you for checking.
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